Sunday, May 31, 2009

Why Rape is Everyone's Problem

I started writing this as a response to MB's post and it turned into an enormous rant so I thought I'd spare her comment box. It's only tangentially related to what she wrote, it's more a comment on the perceptions informing the article she linked to.

"On the subject of rape, when will people realise it is not a form of entertainment?"

Even for women who are turned on by what we would see as sexualised violence? I'm always wary of the, 'it exerts a subtle influence' argument.

Society is what makes rape acceptable. A media that pillories an entire ethnic group because of a few rapists while giving socially important rapists a pass is what makes rape acceptable. In that you can see the concepts of 'our women' being possessions that can be protected from some and given to others. That's what makes rape acceptable. It's the same kind of chauvinism that insists that women are so fragile in society that they must be 'protected' even from imaginary sexual violence. Culture and art of all kinds is largely a *reflection* of society as opposed to a director of it.

There is a well known perception that people hold. It's that media of all kinds is always more influential on the minds of others than themselves. You can completely ban all sexual expression deemed to be inappropriate, but you will still be more at risk of sexual violence in Saudi Arabia than in Japan because they are different societies with different things being acceptable in each. Japan isn't necessarily perfect either but the point here is that when a society determines something should not happen, it will not happen, regardless of imaginary depictions. Just look at paedophilia. 20-30 years ago, the most common way to deal with a paedophile was to simply get kids to avoid them, "don't let person x alone with the kids". Now it is completely and totally beyond the bounds of even inadvertent tolerance in society.

Rape games would be illegal in Australia and yet we have adolescent kids forming rape gangs and sexually assaulting a young girl on film and then selling copies for $5. As far as I can tell, none of them went to prison. I think that says much more about rape as entertainment in our society than the existence of any kind of depiction of rape ever can.

Rape is tolerated in our society and it is all but encouraged as part of our sexist society (we rank only behind the US in the developed world in measures of benevolent sexism). This means that a significant number of women hold the same attitudes towards rape as well. Focussing on games, books, ideas of rape etc. is at best dodging the issue and at worst a flat out waste of time and detrimental to the shared cause of every sensible person who values human rights.

There's no point messing about worrying if this or that depiction of women leads to a society condoning violence against them. We already know the facts. In developed nations at least, when there are high levels of benevolent sexism, people will be more likely to blame a person who is raped by someone they know as opposed to someone they don't know. When the victim is judged to have violated gender roles (this is a benevolently sexist society) people will be more likely to blame the victim. And when the perpetrator has high status compared to the victim, the victim is again more likely to be blamed. This is no mystery. there are mountains of evidence that describe this aspect of our society.

This is why you are fucked if you go out for a good time, wear a short skirt, pash a footy player and wind up being raped by 20 of his mates. Because the people around you will blame you and our society will turn on you like a pack of rabid animals because you stepped out of the bounds of the role that had been defined for you.

Certainly we can screw around with porn, etc. but until we cut through the bullshit and realise that rape happens because someone you know thinks it's excusable under certain circumstances, we're all just wasting our time.

11 comments:

michelle said...

Bloody fantastic post, Gam.

From the lion's mouth said...

Yes, terrific post Gam.

Nick said...

"Rape games would be illegal in Australia and yet we have adolescent kids forming rape gangs and sexually assaulting a young girl on film and then selling copies for $5."
How often does that happen? It's disgusting behaviour, but extrapolating an isolated incident to the entire country is not good social science.

"As far as I can tell, none of them went to prison."
Yeah let's throw all the kids in jail. They did something stupid. Some kids stab people. Some kids murder. Some kids do drugs. Some kids vandalise.
Yet sexual violence is held above all of those things, as though it holds some sort of unique air of contempt about it. People who commit sexual assault are tagged in a register they can never escape. Often, even once they have served their time, there are loud calls from the community "go back to prison or keep the hell away from us".
Why is sexual violence considered to be so much worse than regular assault and murder?
I thought that getting stabbed in the chest would be a pretty bad experience, but if that person happens to touch a woman's breasts, god help him. His life is over.

"Rape is tolerated in our society and it is all but encouraged as part of our sexist society"
haha is that some kind of joke?
Either it is a joke, or you are very emotional about this issue, to the point of being illogical.

If you could please properly reference your claim that Australia and the US are the most benevolently sexist countries.
It's a pretty ridiculous claim, and there is a lot of bad science out there.

"There's no point messing about worrying if this or that depiction of women leads to a society condoning violence against them."
It has become socially acceptable for women to be violent against men. Violence is always bad, why there must be this massive distinction between 'violence' and 'violence against women', I don't know. I'm not sure that violence by men against women is all that common anyway. unprovoked domestic abuse perpetrated by men isn't all that common.

"This is why you are fucked if you go out for a good time, wear a short skirt, pash a footy player and wind up being raped by 20 of his mates."
You say this as though it is a daily occurrence!
There was never any conclusive evidence to say that thatwoman was raped. Most of the circumstantial evidence is pointing to her having been quite welcoming of it, and then boastful about it afterwards. Group sex doesn't normally start with everyone formally declaring their consent. If she had said or indicated that she didn't want to have sex with them, then what those people did was very wrong. But by all accounts but hers, she was inviting.
Then there is that woman who had sex with 200 or so footy players. Obviously quite a busy girl. Was she ever raped?

"because the people around you will blame you and our society will turn on you like a pack of rabid animals because you stepped out of the bounds of the role that had been defined for you."
Complaining about gender roles? Are you from the 40s or something? Women can do whatever they want. Men can do whatever they want. Gender Roles have hardly inhibited either sex in westernised countries over the past 20 or so years.
And before the 70s, let me remind you, gender roles were just as strictly defined for men as they were for women. Perhaps women got the raw end of the deal, but then again maybe not. Men had to go out and work to support the family. Women had to stay at home and support the family in her own way.
Before the 70s, it wasn't as though men could do whatever the hell they pleased, while women were kept in the kitchen/laundry.

Nick said...

I'm quite into animal rights. I've read a lot of arguments for and against eating meat/animal experimentation.

Let me give you some advice:
Writing a poorly-referenced, highly emotional, and illogical argument is not going to win you any support from the opposite side. You won't convert anyone.

People who already support your view (the two previous posters) will rally up and agree with you and generally make you feel good because they agree with you. It's preaching to the choir, if you will.

But you will never ever convert anyone from the opposite side with the kind of articles you have been writing on this blog.
I guess I'm trying to help you, in a way, so please don't insult me again.

I'm not some women-hating psycho. If you write something clever, maybe I will agree with you.

Sarah said...

unprovoked domestic abuse perpetrated by men isn't all that common.Hoooooly shit. I think I've heard enough, Nick. I don't believe that 'provocation' is an excuse for any kind of domestic violence, male-on-female, or female-on-male. The only difference between provoked and 'unprovoked' is the opinion of the perpetrator- whose opinion counts for nothing, as far as I'm concerned.

Nick said...

By 'provocation' I meant more actual physical attacks. Like a woman kicking a man during an argument. I would consider that provocation, and it would be reasonable for the man to respond with enough force to protect himself, even if that means hurting her in the process.
Same the other way, if a man is beating a woman up, she has every right to defend herself.

I should have worded my original comment better. I certainly am not trying to say that verbal abuse warrants physical harm.

Gam said...

thanks nick, for being an unwitting object lesson about all the things i'm talking about. i'm not interested in converting you nick, because you appear to be a lost cause. good luck to you.

Nick said...

No person is a lost cause. Use reason and logic, and maybe I'll see things your way.
But there is no way silly emotionally-fuelled, unscientific arguments are going to change anybody's mind.

Anonymous said...

An excellent post... Your serious hat is always thought provoking - You should make this my pet peeve... a letter to the Editor...... it's for once, a worthy read :)

Anonymous said...

not your BLOG for once lol... I meant your post being printed as a letter to the editor would make that hideous part of a newspaper readable!

Gam said...

"But there is no way silly emotionally-fuelled, unscientific arguments are going to change anybody's mind."

Did you actually click the links to any of the research? Of course you didn't. I read most of those papers as part of my degree. You should check them out. The only person making emotional, unsupported arguments is you. Maybe you should ask yourself why.